Weber State University Homeschooled Student Early College and Regular Admittance; and Scholarships

Today I visited Weber State University and met with multiple experts on campus. This university has different rules for different situations. I think I got it cleared up today. None of this is on their website. It is all information you have to beg for, investigate and really dig hard to get. I really think it would be better for them to post all of these things clearly on their web site and for them to print all of these things in a brochure made specifically for the homeschooled!

Weber State University Academic Scholarships for Homeschooled Candidates

The following are requirements for Homeschooled Candidates only:

Presidential Scholarship

ACT composite 31+

8 semesters, tuition & fees, valued at $25,000

Trustee’s Scholarship

ACT composite 27-30

2 semesters, $1,750 per semester

Dean’s Scholarship

ACT composite 23-26

2 semesters, $1,000 per semester

Keep in mind, applying for scholarships every year is my recommendation. Even if a candidate only receives a 1 year scholarship, they may apply for and receive another one each year following that first year. My husband did that. My husband also received a $1,000 scholarship from a non-profit organization. Applying for one scholarship each week is a good idea, in my opinion. A candidate may put one scholarship on top of another. It will save even more money.

Early College Admittance for Homeschooled Students 10th through 12th Grades (Ages 14-18)

A candidate who is a Sophomore, Junior or Senior who is Homeschooling High School can be admitted to the Early College program with a 21 composite score on the ACT. No GED exam is necessary. When the candidate is a minor (under 18), they must also have the permission of their parent or legal guardian to be admitted to the program.

Regular Admittance (not in Early College Program) of the Homeschooled, to Weber State University, (Ages 16-18)

To be admitted at an early age (before the time when peer high school class would be graduating from high school), candidates must have ACT score of 21 and must pass each GED exam with at least a 145 and have a total for all GED exams of 600. The GED exams cannot be taken until the candidate is aged 16. When the candidate is a minor (under 18), they must also have the permission of their parent or legal guardian to be admitted.

Regular Admittance of the Homeschooled, to Weber State University, at least the year after the peer graduating class has graduated, ages 18 or 19+

When the candidate is one year beyond the year when his or her peers have graduated from High School, the homeschooled candidate must either:

1) Candidate has an ACT score of 21 to be admitted (36 is the highest possible score); Or,

2) Candidate must have passed each GED exam with at least a 145 and have a total for all GED exams of 600. (There are 4 exams, which may be taken on separate days. The highest possible score on each exam is 200. The highest possible total score is 800.)

Dec. 2, 2017 (In answer to a question about FAFSA for children)

FAFSA: Early College students and those attending before the age of 18 can get federal financial student aid (FAFSA). Students under the age of 18 must have a co-signer to apply for FAFSA and must not be enrolled in a public school or a charter school, because they are federally funded just like the FAFSA and a person cannot be receiving benefits from 2 federally funded programs at the same time.

Sources:

1) This article from HSLDA (Homeschool Legal Defense Association) explains that homeschooled candidates do not need a GED to be consider to be high school graduates. They just need a homeschool diploma.

2) I spoke with Mona Lisa Harding on the phone on 12-1-17 and she told me all of her kids, even one starting college at age 10 and a half, got FAFSA. She said they would not have been able to afford college had they not used FAFSA, because they are a (financially) poor family. Mona Lisa and her husband Kip wrote a book called “The Brainy Bunch,” and have a website as well. They are very kind, helpful people who are amazing, yet who act like they are not amazing or extraordinary at all (as humble as any people could possibly be). I highly recommend their book. Even if you don’t do what they do, it is a great resource for all homeschool parents! She also said we should only give our money to homeschool-friendly junior colleges, colleges and univeristies, and that I need to find out from all the local higher education schools, which ones love homeschooled candidates the most, and support those ones. She recommends making sure that our kids know how to regularly write a good 5 paragraph essay, have written a 5 page research report with a bibliography, have completed courses in Algebra, Geometry and Trigonometry in homeschool. She urges us to have created for our child a High School transcript showing completion of classes recommended by the Junior Colleges or Community Colleges in our area, or which we plan to have our children attend online. She uses and Excel Spreadsheet for her childrens’ transcripts. She gave me so very much great advice and has even more in her book and on her website, and an opportunity to pay her for a phone consultation! The Brainy Bunch book website

Please read this great article written by Lee Binz about how to determine whether a college or university is homeschool friendly. I love this article!

Additional communication from Weber State University:

December 2, 2017

Rachael Combe sent me an E-mail that said:

“No, from my knowledge we will not be considering GED scores in the near future.  We realize that not all students have the same testing capabilities.  If your daughter believes that she should be considered for a higher scholarship based on other factors aside from her ACT results, she can write a statement to scholarship@weber.edu requesting consideration.  The Financial Aid and Scholarship Appeals Committee will then evaluate her eligibility.”

That is good news! I am glad there is a way for homeschooled candidates to present their other accomplishments for consideration by a scholarship appeals committee. That is very good information! Since public schooled candidates have GPA’s as well as an ACT, it is rough for our children to have everything weighted on only their ACT score! It really is unfair. The fact that they have such an appeals committee is a good thing! It is too bad that no Admissions Appeals Committee has been mentioned. Rachael from the scholarship office said that there are scholarships for those who receive a 15-17 and a 17-20 on their ACT. This indicates that these people are admitted with these low scores, when our homeschooled children must each receive an ACT composite score of 21 to be admitted! This is very off-balance. It makes me think that this university is not very homeschool friendly.


Sources:

Scott Teichert, Director of Admissions, Weber State University, 11-30-2017 (Student Services Center)

Samantha Burroghs, Academic Advisor (Early College Program) at Weber State University, 11-30-2017 (Student Services Center)

Rachael Combe, Weber State Academics and Merit Scholarship Specialist, Weber State University, 11-30-2017 (E-mail)

Change of Plans in Homeschool

I love that I CAN have a change of plans in homeschool, either after much pondering, or on a whim and of a sudden. I have no need to contact a teacher, a principle, a common core standards creator or implementor or any government leader. Yesterday  was nauseous and vomiting. By mid-day, I was fairly sure it was a virus. By evening when my husband started vomiting, I knew for sure it was a virus. However, from 5 am until 10 am, I suspected it was because of anxiety over political things, things about the future of our nation and homeschooling. 

     One thing that came of it was a journal entry about how I need to make homeschooling easier on me and on the kids. The big thing I decided was that my child will not be taking any tests for college credit this year. Possibly, she will not next year, either. I am glad there are people who homeschool who can do that kind of thing and I am glad to know about the option t get college credit while a child is young. However, it is not for us right now. Still, we will learn the things about history because the DVDs and books about ancient world history I bought are great. The childrens’ fun “interactive notebook” (lapbook) and Power Point Presentations Bundle from a Teacher’s Pay Teachers store are also great. I will use them. The difference will be in my anxiety level and the anxiety level of my child. We will do it more slowly, more casually and more enjoyably! We will do it at our own pace with no pressure or worry. We will be enabled to enjoy the journey more.

     Another thing that came of it was a decision to write down one or just a few things, to focus on for each child in our homeschool. That is pretty much what we do at the beginning of the summer and I like it. I focus on their biggest needs and do not worry about anything else. They do a lot of teaching themselves based upon their interests, either intense or “on a whim.” I have come to see that the latter is how they learn more and learn more intensely.

     Recently, for example, my son learned Power Point from his cousin, so yesterday, he got on the computer and made something in Power Point. He really is doing things he could d better in Photoshop, so I need to teach him Photoshop! My daughters learned more about sculpture by making sculptures. She wanted to sell them on Etsy but I told her that making ten good sculptures and submitting slides to galleries will be a better way to go. She seemed upset, but I told her she could sell her sculptures for more that way. I also told her I did not learn that until I was thirty years old, so she is blessed to know it sooner. That is fodder not taught when you get a Bachelor of Art Degree in Visual Arts. It should be. One of my children has also been working much on learning to follow recipes and is having much learning happen there. Another really wants to learn many things but I have been too worried about other things to get to any of it nad help him. 

     I am still going to keep my rules for them, which rules regard television and technology, which I have listed in another post at length. I do not believe in having kids do whatever they want all day. I do believe in telling them they must be doing learning, housework, yardwork or doing something productive. I consider much play to be productive, too, which is crazy. I think they will understand Physics when we watch the physics DVDs and read the physics books I have on my amazon wish list, better after all of the playing they have done this past week. They learned much about gravity, acceleration and safety hazzards after their recent intense play as a group of siblings. I also taught them a lesson about wisdom and discussed with them how I was a child like them once and did learn by getting injured, just like them. I told them that people who have more years on them were always once children and that much of what they tell you, such as not to do this or that because they could get hurt, comes from learning that happened in their childhoods.

     I am eager today and tomorrow to learn, without throwing up, from the leaders, apostles and Prophet of God in the General Confence of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. I hope everyone is healthy today. I am grateful I am not throwing up!

Weber State University General Associates Degree Using Many CLEP & DSST Exams

Weber WSU General Associates with CLEP and DSST Exams (Download entire document for free here)

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Page 1 of the Document: Weber State University Associates Degree Guide for Homeschoolers 9th-12th Grades (Early College for Homeschoolers in Northern Utah)

Weber State University Credit by Exam

I hope these links help you to give your local Utah homeschooling kids an edge on life. You will be homeschooling college! That is just as normal as putting your public schooled high schooler in a concurrent enrollment or early college class at their high school. It is not weird. They do it. Why shouldn’t homeschoolers also do it? Here are some links you will need about Credits by Exam (for anyone, but especially for Homeschoolers) from Weber State University in Ogden, Utah:

General Requirements at Weber State University (requirements for every degree)

Questions about Generals at Weber State University

General Questions about Degrees at Weber State University

CLEP Tests Accepted by Weber State University (and what each gives credit for)

DSST (Dantes) Exams Weber State Gives Credit For (and which credits you will get for them)

DSST Testing Center Guidelines

CLEP Testing Center Guidelines WSU

WSU Testing Centers (click tabs to get to each testing center)

GED testing center guidelines WSU  — (In case you want to do that, too)

Video: Weber State University: How Our Testing Centers Operate

CLEP Official Study Guide at Amazon.com

DSST Principles of Public Speaking Exam Wise Owl Study Guide, Amazon.com

WSU Public Speaking HU 1020 book I bought

Info. on WSU Bookstore, where you could also get study books for the exams

CLEP Western Civilizations I Exam Study Guide by REA at Amazon.com

“The Great Courses: Foundations of Western Civilization I” (Search at Amazon.com)

I bought Parts 1-3 for $30 used. I am using this to teach my kids and help them prepare for the CLEP Western Civilizations I Exam.

The Great Courses: The Foundations of Western Civilization This is the same DVD from the creators’ website.

You can find study guides for any CLEP or DSST test at Amazon.com or wherever you buy books. (I buy them at Amazon.com).

Weber State University Credit by Exam

Homeschool Early College / Concurrent Enrollment at Weber State University

G.E.D.: 10 College Credits? Really!? That’s Great!

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Homeschool and Early College at Weber State University

I just got back with my daughter from a meeting at Weber State University, about getting in to Weber State as an Early College student.

I learned a lot. (Note: This was accurate as of Summer, 2014. I do not guarantee it still is.) This is what you need to get in:

No High School Transcript is needed.

Easy Steps:

1) Attend the introduction to Early College information session (1 hour) at Weber State. (Sign up for the class at weber.edu/earlycollege .)

2) Get an ACT composite 21 or SAT score 990 (you can take the test at Weber State, but your score will then only be valid at Weber State).

3) Fill out the Early College Admission form online (you will need to get a username and a password).

4) Pay a $30 application Fee.

5) Fill out and sign online, the Parental and School Counselor consent forms.

6) Set an appointment with the homeschool early college Advisor, to discuss with her your personal plan and needs. Make a plan with her, for which classes you will take.

7) If you want a special Associates Degree, go to weber.edu/advisors to find out which classes will be required for it. You can download an app with advisors listed, called “Weber State Academic Advising.”

8) Attend Orientation session for Early College (1 hr.). Register for this at weber.edu.

9) Pay Tuition and Fees, and Register for 7 credit hours, maximum, in 2 classes, maximum, for the initial semester. They recommend that one of these two classes be “UNIV 1105 Foundations of College Success.” In this class, students will learn about possible career and degree options, note taking strategies, study strategies, research strategies, learn about the campus, learn about what is available to them at the University, exam preparations, etcetera.

10) Apply for financial aid. This is to be done before applying for scholarships.

11) Apply for Early College Scholarships. There are scholarships just for Early College students only. Some are needs-based. Some are merit-based.

 

Scholarships for Early College:

1) First, they recommend that you try to get a scholarship that is needs-based. This will depend on your financial aid application.

2) ACT composite on ACT or 1550 on SAT. GPA not valid or looked at for homeschooled kids for Early College Scholarships. Testing alone determines your place on the grid. It is as if you have the lowst GPA possible. (This seems very unfair to me).

 

Scholarships because of Early Associated Degree:

If you complete your Associates Degree by the same time you would have normally graduated from High School and have a 26 ACT or a combined GPA for the entire degree, and ACT score, composite score of 100 or better, you can apply for the New Century Scholarship.* If the New Century Scholarship is awarded you, it would pay $1250 per semester, and may be used at almost any University. It is a stackable scholarship, meaning you can apply for others to use along with it. This is at NewCenturyScholarship.org.

*[They have a chart, where you find your GPA on the top and your ACT or SAT score on left. You see where they come together, and they have made values for where each GPA/ test score combination, meet. The value where they meet has to be 100 to qualify to apply for this scholarship. If you go to this early college information session, they will give you this chart and they will explain this to you. An example is: You have taken all classes for an Associates degree before High School graduation time. Your University courses averaged over the entire time working in this degree, wverqge out to w 3.2 GPA. You re-take the ACT test. You score a 21 on the ACT test. This gets you a score of 101 on their chart. You may apply for the new Century Scholarship!]

 

Costs of Early College include:

1) $30 application fee (no fee for concurrent enrollment)
2) $10 student I.D. Card
3) Parking Permit
4) Books and/or supplies required and/ or needed
5) Tuition and Fees

If you want to know how to make a homeschool High School transcript for Utah, check out how, here. https://lisajacksondesign.wordpress.com/category/homeschool/homeschool-high-school/

Test your way to an Associates Degree with Weber State.

I wish you the best! Thanks for reading!