Weber State University Homeschooled Student Early College and Regular Admittance; and Scholarships

Today I visited Weber State University and met with multiple experts on campus. This university has different rules for different situations. I think I got it cleared up today. None of this is on their website. It is all information you have to beg for, investigate and really dig hard to get. I really think it would be better for them to post all of these things clearly on their web site and for them to print all of these things in a brochure made specifically for the homeschooled!

Weber State University Academic Scholarships for Homeschooled Candidates

The following are requirements for Homeschooled Candidates only:

Presidential Scholarship

ACT composite 31+

8 semesters, tuition & fees, valued at $25,000

Trustee’s Scholarship

ACT composite 27-30

2 semesters, $1,750 per semester

Dean’s Scholarship

ACT composite 23-26

2 semesters, $1,000 per semester

Keep in mind, applying for scholarships every year is my recommendation. Even if a candidate only receives a 1 year scholarship, they may apply for and receive another one each year following that first year. My husband did that. My husband also received a $1,000 scholarship from a non-profit organization. Applying for one scholarship each week is a good idea, in my opinion. A candidate may put one scholarship on top of another. It will save even more money.

Early College Admittance for Homeschooled Students 10th through 12th Grades (Ages 14-18)

A candidate who is a Sophomore, Junior or Senior who is Homeschooling High School can be admitted to the Early College program with a 21 composite score on the ACT. No GED exam is necessary. When the candidate is a minor (under 18), they must also have the permission of their parent or legal guardian to be admitted to the program.

Regular Admittance (not in Early College Program) of the Homeschooled, to Weber State University, (Ages 16-18)

To be admitted at an early age (before the time when peer high school class would be graduating from high school), candidates must have ACT score of 21 and must pass each GED exam with at least a 145 and have a total for all GED exams of 600. The GED exams cannot be taken until the candidate is aged 16. When the candidate is a minor (under 18), they must also have the permission of their parent or legal guardian to be admitted.

Regular Admittance of the Homeschooled, to Weber State University, at least the year after the peer graduating class has graduated, ages 18 or 19+

When the candidate is one year beyond the year when his or her peers have graduated from High School, the homeschooled candidate must either:

1) Candidate has an ACT score of 21 to be admitted (36 is the highest possible score); Or,

2) Candidate must have passed each GED exam with at least a 145 and have a total for all GED exams of 600. (There are 4 exams, which may be taken on separate days. The highest possible score on each exam is 200. The highest possible total score is 800.)

Dec. 2, 2017 (In answer to a question about FAFSA for children)

FAFSA: Early College students and those attending before the age of 18 can get federal financial student aid (FAFSA). Students under the age of 18 must have a co-signer to apply for FAFSA and must not be enrolled in a public school or a charter school, because they are federally funded just like the FAFSA and a person cannot be receiving benefits from 2 federally funded programs at the same time.

Sources:

1) This article from HSLDA (Homeschool Legal Defense Association) explains that homeschooled candidates do not need a GED to be consider to be high school graduates. They just need a homeschool diploma.

2) I spoke with Mona Lisa Harding on the phone on 12-1-17 and she told me all of her kids, even one starting college at age 10 and a half, got FAFSA. She said they would not have been able to afford college had they not used FAFSA, because they are a (financially) poor family. Mona Lisa and her husband Kip wrote a book called “The Brainy Bunch,” and have a website as well. They are very kind, helpful people who are amazing, yet who act like they are not amazing or extraordinary at all (as humble as any people could possibly be). I highly recommend their book. Even if you don’t do what they do, it is a great resource for all homeschool parents! She also said we should only give our money to homeschool-friendly junior colleges, colleges and univeristies, and that I need to find out from all the local higher education schools, which ones love homeschooled candidates the most, and support those ones. She recommends making sure that our kids know how to regularly write a good 5 paragraph essay, have written a 5 page research report with a bibliography, have completed courses in Algebra, Geometry and Trigonometry in homeschool. She urges us to have created for our child a High School transcript showing completion of classes recommended by the Junior Colleges or Community Colleges in our area, or which we plan to have our children attend online. She uses and Excel Spreadsheet for her childrens’ transcripts. She gave me so very much great advice and has even more in her book and on her website, and an opportunity to pay her for a phone consultation! The Brainy Bunch book website

Please read this great article written by Lee Binz about how to determine whether a college or university is homeschool friendly. I love this article!

Additional communication from Weber State University:

December 2, 2017

Rachael Combe sent me an E-mail that said:

“No, from my knowledge we will not be considering GED scores in the near future.  We realize that not all students have the same testing capabilities.  If your daughter believes that she should be considered for a higher scholarship based on other factors aside from her ACT results, she can write a statement to scholarship@weber.edu requesting consideration.  The Financial Aid and Scholarship Appeals Committee will then evaluate her eligibility.”

That is good news! I am glad there is a way for homeschooled candidates to present their other accomplishments for consideration by a scholarship appeals committee. That is very good information! Since public schooled candidates have GPA’s as well as an ACT, it is rough for our children to have everything weighted on only their ACT score! It really is unfair. The fact that they have such an appeals committee is a good thing! It is too bad that no Admissions Appeals Committee has been mentioned. Rachael from the scholarship office said that there are scholarships for those who receive a 15-17 and a 17-20 on their ACT. This indicates that these people are admitted with these low scores, when our homeschooled children must each receive an ACT composite score of 21 to be admitted! This is very off-balance. It makes me think that this university is not very homeschool friendly.


Sources:

Scott Teichert, Director of Admissions, Weber State University, 11-30-2017 (Student Services Center)

Samantha Burroghs, Academic Advisor (Early College Program) at Weber State University, 11-30-2017 (Student Services Center)

Rachael Combe, Weber State Academics and Merit Scholarship Specialist, Weber State University, 11-30-2017 (E-mail)

Utah Relaxed Homeschool High School 9th Grade Battle Plan

“Relaxed Homeschool” means sort of halfway between “Unschooling” style and “School at Home” style. I am aware that a marriage between the two styles is impossible. However, my personality makes it work. Sometimes, we go weeks on unschooling style alone. Then I get steam and may have an hour, a few hours or a couple days of “School at Home” style academic stuff. I am not going to tell you that the latter is the most academic, learning-productive, rigorous or challenging. Surprisingly, the former is. I just cannot keep up with it fully as it is a lot of work for the mama. That is why sometimes, I take a break from the rigors of “unschooling” and do some “school at home” style.

I plan to have my child focus on the following for homeschool 9th grade Homeschool High School Early College & College Preparation. Please do not think I will do any of this with my child on a set schedule or routine. We do not work that way here. The exceptions are the following, which are at certain set days and times: Northern Utah Wildlife Rehabilitation Center volunteering, LDS Seminary, Intermediate Speech & Debate, swim lessons, swimteam and sports recreation leagues. The rest are just done throughout the year whenever I feel like they should be done or whenever my child does them.

If you are locals and you drop in on a family at home doing things that look nothing like school, don’t be shocked. It is normal for us. Perhaps we are learning through play. Perhaps we are cleaning the house. Guaranteed, the more rigorous, more challenging, uncontrolled, unassigned, unmanaged “unschooling” learning is occuring. If you drop by and we are not home, then perhaps I am a chauffer to LDS Seminary, swim lessons or swimteam, local sports recreation leagues, Intermediate Speech & Debate  or volunteering with my kids at the NUWRC. Perhaps we are just hanging out with friends, on a picnic, on a field trip, shopping or running errands.

  • TABE Test Prep Level A: Score high on home-administered, correctly timed Tabe A practice tests. In Utah, passing TABE  level A in all 4 areas is required to take the GED test. A person must be age 16 to take this test. They must have a letter of withdrawal from the latest district school attended, on official letterhead if possible, signed by the school principle and secretary, stating when the child withdrew from school. Before the TABE there is a “Locator test” which is 37 minutes long. The Locator Test determines which level TABE test the student should use in each area. There are 5 levels of TABE tests. A= Advanced, 9-12 grades; D= Difficult, 6-8 grades; M= Medium, 4-5 grades; E= Easy, 2-3 grades; L= Literacy, 1st grade and/or non-reader. A person scoring 9.0 in Math is at the A, Advanced, 9th grade level in Math. A person will take 4 different level TABE tests to create one full TABE package. The TABE tests are in the following subjects: Reading, 50 min., 50 Q’s; Math I, 24 min., 40 Q’s; Math II, 50 min., 50 Q’s; Language, 55 min., 55 Q’s.
  • GED Test Prep: Score high on home-administered, correctly timed practice tests. A person must be 16 to take this test and in Utah, must take the TABE to qualify to take this test.
  • ACT English Section Preparation. A composite score of 21 on the ACT is required to be admitted to Weber State University when there are not 30 CLEP and DSST credits. (GED not required to be admitted into Weber State or to take CLEP or DSST exams).
  • World Civilizations I CLEP test prep. Take test at Weber State University when ready ($90). Passing the test gives the student 3 Social Science credits and replaces the History of the Western World I class at the University.
  • DSST Principles of Public Speaking test prep.  Take test at Weber State University when ready ($90). Passing the test gives the student 3 Humanities credits and it replaces Communications 1020: Public Speaking, at the University. This test has a speech portion, wherein the student gives a speech either to judges present or recorded on video and shown later to judges; and a written exam portion. Each section is given 50% of the test value.
  • Rosetta Stone Spanish Levels I & II
  • LDS Seminary
  • Volunteer at (NUWRC) Northern Utah Wildlife Rehabilitation Center approximately 3 hrs./ wk.
  • Intermediate Speech & Debate (This is a class we registered for, taught to a class of 15 homeschoolers by a really great local Speech & Debate Teacher).
  • At age 15, get a learner’s permit and practice driving in remote areas where no cars or pedestrians are present
  • Career and College Major/ Minor Planning and Research
  • Life School LDS Homeschool Curriculum Year 1, Parts 2 and 3 with the family, top level
  • Math: TABE, GED, ACT study & practice tests
  • Math assigned by me from themathworksheetsite.com, workbooks and textbooks I have in our homeschool library
  • Do Math in your head & everyday life math practice and learning
  • Math DVD series: Complete Basic Math & Pre-Algebra
  • Chemistry 101 DVD and workbook/ assignments
  • Complete the “Cover Story” Creative Writing DVD with lesson books series 
  • Various U.S. History DVD’s
  • Read 2 of the U.S. or World History books on my list
  • MyGeography app–100% on all exams
  • 2 countries research reports
  • 1 U.S. state or region research report
  • 1 State of Utah or 1 county in Utah research report
  • Literature: reading of 4 classic novels
  • Swim lessons pass level 5 and swim with swimteam
  • Softball with city league
  • Attend a play at the Shakespearean Festival with Grandma V.
  • Piano Lessons: complete Primer Level & Level I
  • Sewing Lessons from Grandma K.
  • Gardening
  • Cooking, Nutrition, Menu Planning, Shopping
  • Home Canning, Food Storage
  • Budgeting, personal finance
  • Attend church dances
  • Singing: church choir, family devotionals