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Today I visited Weber State University and met with multiple experts on campus. This university has different rules for different situations. I think I got it cleared up today. None of this is on their website. It is all information you have to beg for, investigate and really dig hard to get. I really think it would be better for them to post all of these things clearly on their web site and for them to print all of these things in a brochure made specifically for the homeschooled!
Weber State University Academic Scholarships for Homeschooled Candidates
The following are requirements for Homeschooled Candidates only:
ACT composite 31+
8 semesters, tuition & fees, valued at $25,000
ACT composite 27-30
2 semesters, $1,750 per semester
ACT composite 23-26
2 semesters, $1,000 per semester
Keep in mind, applying for scholarships every year is my recommendation. Even if a candidate only receives a 1 year scholarship, they may apply for and receive another one each year following that first year. My husband did that. My husband also received a $1,000 scholarship from a non-profit organization. Applying for one scholarship each week is a good idea, in my opinion. A candidate may put one scholarship on top of another. It will save even more money.
Early College Admittance for Homeschooled Students 10th through 12th Grades (Ages 14-18)
A candidate who is a Sophomore, Junior or Senior who is Homeschooling High School can be admitted to the Early College program with a 21 composite score on the ACT. No GED exam is necessary. When the candidate is a minor (under 18), they must also have the permission of their parent or legal guardian to be admitted to the program.
Regular Admittance (not in Early College Program) of the Homeschooled, to Weber State University, (Ages 16-18)
To be admitted at an early age (before the time when peer high school class would be graduating from high school), candidates must have ACT score of 21 and must pass each GED exam with at least a 145 and have a total for all GED exams of 600. The GED exams cannot be taken until the candidate is aged 16. When the candidate is a minor (under 18), they must also have the permission of their parent or legal guardian to be admitted.
Regular Admittance of the Homeschooled, to Weber State University, at least the year after the peer graduating class has graduated, ages 18 or 19+
When the candidate is one year beyond the year when his or her peers have graduated from High School, the homeschooled candidate must either:
1) Candidate has an ACT score of 21 to be admitted (36 is the highest possible score); Or,
2) Candidate must have passed each GED exam with at least a 145 and have a total for all GED exams of 600. (There are 4 exams, which may be taken on separate days. The highest possible score on each exam is 200. The highest possible total score is 800.)
Dec. 2, 2017 (In answer to a question about FAFSA for children)
FAFSA: Early College students and those attending before the age of 18 can get federal financial student aid (FAFSA). Students under the age of 18 must have a co-signer to apply for FAFSA and must not be enrolled in a public school or a charter school, because they are federally funded just like the FAFSA and a person cannot be receiving benefits from 2 federally funded programs at the same time.
1) This article from HSLDA (Homeschool Legal Defense Association) explains that homeschooled candidates do not need a GED to be consider to be high school graduates. They just need a homeschool diploma.
2) I spoke with Mona Lisa Harding on the phone on 12-1-17 and she told me all of her kids, even one starting college at age 10 and a half, got FAFSA. She said they would not have been able to afford college had they not used FAFSA, because they are a (financially) poor family. Mona Lisa and her husband Kip wrote a book called “The Brainy Bunch,” and have a website as well. They are very kind, helpful people who are amazing, yet who act like they are not amazing or extraordinary at all (as humble as any people could possibly be). I highly recommend their book. Even if you don’t do what they do, it is a great resource for all homeschool parents! She also said we should only give our money to homeschool-friendly junior colleges, colleges and univeristies, and that I need to find out from all the local higher education schools, which ones love homeschooled candidates the most, and support those ones. She recommends making sure that our kids know how to regularly write a good 5 paragraph essay, have written a 5 page research report with a bibliography, have completed courses in Algebra, Geometry and Trigonometry in homeschool. She urges us to have created for our child a High School transcript showing completion of classes recommended by the Junior Colleges or Community Colleges in our area, or which we plan to have our children attend online. She uses and Excel Spreadsheet for her childrens’ transcripts. She gave me so very much great advice and has even more in her book and on her website, and an opportunity to pay her for a phone consultation! The Brainy Bunch book website
Please read this great article written by Lee Binz about how to determine whether a college or university is homeschool friendly. I love this article!
Additional communication from Weber State University:
December 2, 2017
Rachael Combe sent me an E-mail that said:
“No, from my knowledge we will not be considering GED scores in the near future. We realize that not all students have the same testing capabilities. If your daughter believes that she should be considered for a higher scholarship based on other factors aside from her ACT results, she can write a statement to firstname.lastname@example.org requesting consideration. The Financial Aid and Scholarship Appeals Committee will then evaluate her eligibility.”
That is good news! I am glad there is a way for homeschooled candidates to present their other accomplishments for consideration by a scholarship appeals committee. That is very good information! Since public schooled candidates have GPA’s as well as an ACT, it is rough for our children to have everything weighted on only their ACT score! It really is unfair. The fact that they have such an appeals committee is a good thing! It is too bad that no Admissions Appeals Committee has been mentioned. Rachael from the scholarship office said that there are scholarships for those who receive a 15-17 and a 17-20 on their ACT. This indicates that these people are admitted with these low scores, when our homeschooled children must each receive an ACT composite score of 21 to be admitted! This is very off-balance. It makes me think that this university is not very homeschool friendly.
Scott Teichert, Director of Admissions, Weber State University, 11-30-2017 (Student Services Center)
Samantha Burroghs, Academic Advisor (Early College Program) at Weber State University, 11-30-2017 (Student Services Center)
Rachael Combe, Weber State Academics and Merit Scholarship Specialist, Weber State University, 11-30-2017 (E-mail)
I have new information for you about how a homeschooled person can be accepted as a student at Weber State University. I got this information from a phone call to the admittance office yesterday.
The student applying can be accepted for admittance if one of the following applies:
- The person applying has passed (145 out of 200) all 4 G.E.D. Exams and the total for all 4 exams is 600 out of a possible 800.
- The person applying has a 21 composite score for the ACT exam.
This is significant, because Weber State has always told people that there is only one requirement, which is the ACT score one. This time, however, I had just finished speaking on the phone with admissions from Utah State University. They helped me to understand that a G.E.D. score, on the Index Scoring system, can be equivalent to a GPA. That means a perfect score of 800 on the GED exam is just like a 4.0 average overall GPA!
By the way, to get into Utah State University as a homeschooled person, one must meet one of the following requirements.:
- The person’s parent has created a High School Transcript and the person has scored a 17 on the ACT exam.
- The person has a total GED score of 660, having passed all 4 tests, and the person has scored a 17 on the ACT exam.
My husband and I just went to walk around Weber State University campus. Those kids are 20. They used to be babies. When I was attending at Weber State, many of them were entering kindergarten. Some of them look 30, so those were in 9th grade when I attended the University.
We went to the library. Crazy full of memories. “This is where I used a thin piece of paper and made a 12 inch tall stand that held a brick longer than anyone else’s design,” I told my husband, pointing out a desk in the library on the too floor by the photography history books. That was for Amy Adams’ 3-D art class. We had fun pointing out where the Vax computers were located. My kids will never know what “Vax” means, and will never understand why we sould sneak around to find the hidden Vax computers in order to sneak onto the internet with our sneaky secret knowledge of early novice hacking.
We went to see the new Tracy Hall Science building. It was really cool. It is new this semester and just barely dedicated. We determined that they are still and un-packing. There are glass walls so you can see into the rooms. I loved the Eames-inspired contemporary furniture but Jeff did not appreciate it. Buildings 1, 2 and 3 were large parts of my life, but I was not as sad about losing those as I was about Lampros Hall.
Even though my husband has no memories of the Collett Art building, I forced him to follow me around in there. The entryway still smells of pencil lead and paint. Even though that made me happy, the fact that they removed all trace of the art legacy from that building made me upset. I know they have a new building and it is awesome, but the anger is still there. How can they change a place where I practically LIVED for 5 years of my life? How can they not care about my memories?
We entered from the back. “This,” I whispered to my husband, ” was where we out our entries for exhibits.” He had no glimmer in his eye. He didn’t get it. How can he not feel what I feel? He has no memories of it. Entries. Do you know what that means? It means we laid our hearts and souls there for them to judge and then (most of the time for me) shun.
I walked up the stairs. “No art on display. How sad!” I mourned. “How can they do this to us?” I am laughing at myself now. How can I be upset about this and why am I upset about this? I am still trying to figure it out. I am not a psychologist.
I looked to the other side. ‘There is where they had slides,’ I thought. “The professors’ rooms were over there,” I told my husband.
“Do you know how many classes I had in here?” he asked me. “One?” I guessed. “Zero,” he mocked. He told me his art appreciation class was in the Social Sciences building.
After leaving there, disappointed in them for not preserving this home of mine from my past, we went home. Unable to sleep for the memories, I blog now. It saves my sanity so that hopefully Alzheimers won’t set in as soon.
The first thing I did was to search for the Collett Art Building at Weber State University. Surely they have some memories preserved online! Indeed, they do not. What I did find was pretty cool, though.
There were many links to exhibits and one to “free community field trips” from the late nineties. This was the closest I came. I am surprised to know that Farrell Collett passed away while I was in my Senior year at Weber State and I had no idea about it then. Well, maybe I was slightly aware, but I did not really think about it or care too much. That makes me sad. Farrell Collett.
Then I started finding the people. I guess the people are what matter more than a building, anyway.
I also found this, which was nice. The crazy thing is, these students are limited to being fascinated by his art and they do not feel the same way I do. They don’t love him. I just watch him and want to cry and run up and give him a hug. I just love this man. He cared about me so much. I feel so thankful for what he did for me. He defended me against a mean art professor when I refused to take the nude drawing class. He accepted me when I was a freshman and always smiled at me and talked to me. He had so much respect for me. There just aren’t words. A few years ago, I walked through the new art building with my daughter and he was there. I spoke with him and introduced him to my daughter. He recognized me and remembered me. Jim lectures a group of students about his own art through the years.
Here is a page at Weber State, as he still teaches there. The photo on the page is a great example of what he looks like when he is upset with you. I can tell that when the photo was snapped, he was upset at whomever had dared to photograph him.
I found this. I cannot believe I am the first person to review this professor at ratemyteachers.com. lol. Read my review of Mark Biddle here. 500 characters! They expect me to sum up my experience with Mark Biddle in so few words! He taught me most of my graphic design classes! Well, I get more space here because I am the boss here.
I went a few years back and visited. He did not seem to remember me. He had students there, though, and was busy with them. I suppose the tuition-paying people were more important than a person not paying tuition and showing her daughter around while laden with memories.
I saw Mark Biddle in much if the design work in the hallway in the new building a few years ago. When he retires, if he ever does, the art in the hallways will change so much. A professor influences his students so much!
Mark would mosey and him-haw around the room trying not to stand in front of the work, but somehow always standing in front of the work anyway. He’d look at it casually as if he was trying not to notice and seeing which things he had no choice but to notice because they surprised him so. He would say nothing about it for himself then, and would say, “So, whadya think?” Then he’d look up at us, head tilted inquiringly, hands behind his back, laying on his worn-out jeans. Then he’d step aside, and we were to walk up there to the front and also look at everyone’s work.
Nobody would dare speak up first, but eventually someone always did, of course.
I am now remembering me as the only graphic designer (at the beginning) at Franklin Covey Coaching in 2001. I had to do this alone. I would pin my work up and stand back to look at it, trying to evaluate it from someone else’s perspective. I would call in others, including Mark (the editor). I would ask them, “Is there too much orange? Do the words stand out enough?” etcetera.
I carried Mark Biddle’s personality with me when working with my own graphic design clients. When asking them whether they preferred this or that, it was just like being in class again, only I was pleasing people who were not artists, but business owners. That is a different world!
Next topic. After rating Mark Biddle, I rated 3 others.
There you go. I rated Amy Adams. My rating of Amy Adams
Most of those who taught ne at Weber State are not teaching there now. This is a crime, as people should keep doing the same things forever. Lol. JK.
I have been looking at videos about CLEP and DSST prep. Here is a good one. It is quick. This will help my homeschooled kids get college credit by exam for Weber State University. Please enjoy. It is about 2 minutes long, tops.
Weber WSU General Associates with CLEP and DSST Exams (Download entire document for free here)
I hope these links help you to give your local Utah homeschooling kids an edge on life. You will be homeschooling college! That is just as normal as putting your public schooled high schooler in a concurrent enrollment or early college class at their high school. It is not weird. They do it. Why shouldn’t homeschoolers also do it? Here are some links you will need about Credits by Exam (for anyone, but especially for Homeschoolers) from Weber State University in Ogden, Utah:
GED testing center guidelines WSU — (In case you want to do that, too)
I bought Parts 1-3 for $30 used. I am using this to teach my kids and help them prepare for the CLEP Western Civilizations I Exam.
The Great Courses: The Foundations of Western Civilization This is the same DVD from the creators’ website.
You can find study guides for any CLEP or DSST test at Amazon.com or wherever you buy books. (I buy them at Amazon.com).